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Neil deGrasse Tyson on Horoscopes, Creationists and Superman

COMICON LOS ANGELES  - In a wide-ranging dialogue that bridged the gap between celestial mechanics and modern governance, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson joined host Hasan Minhaj on the Hasan Minhaj Doesn’t Know podcast to dissect the persistent misconceptions that shape human culture. The conversation, which touched on everything from the flawed logic of horoscopes to the mathematical triumphs of the Islamic Golden Age, served as a masterclass in the necessity of objective truth in a post-credential world.

Tyson led with a dismantling of popular astrology, explaining that the traditional zodiac is factually obsolete. Due to the Earth’s axial precession—a slow "wobble" in the planet's rotation—the Sun no longer passes through the constellations during the dates established 2,000 years ago. Furthermore, Tyson pointed out that the Sun actually traverses 14 constellations, including Ophiuchus and Cetus, yet the zodiac remains fixed at 12 signs. This disconnect, he argued, highlights a broader human tendency to project personal significance onto a universe that remains fundamentally indifferent to individual dramas.

The discussion took a political turn as the duo addressed the presence of young-earth creationists in the United States Congress. Rather than solely blaming the politicians, Tyson argued that the phenomenon is a reflection of the voting electorate. He warned that "profound science illiteracy" among lawmakers is a recipe for the "unraveling of an informed democracy." This led to a broader critique of contemporary science education, with Tyson emphasizing that educators must move away from relying on authority or titles and instead focus on explaining why a scientific claim is true through verifiable evidence.

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Historical and pop culture narratives were also subjected to scientific scrutiny. Tyson detailed the transition from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar in 1582, noting that Pope Gregory XIII was forced to "jump" ten days forward to correct a mathematical drift that threatened to push Easter into the wrong season. Transitioning to modern mythology, Tyson offered a physics-based critique of the 1978 Superman film, noting that the Man of Steel flying backward to reverse time would have yielded catastrophic results, as the sudden reversal of Earth’s rotation would have sent its surface features—including the oceans and atmosphere—hurtling forward at 1,000 miles per hour.

The session concluded with a look at how religious devotion historically drove technological progress. Tyson described how the Islamic Golden Age fostered major advancements in spherical trigonometry, as mathematicians and astronomers sought precise methods to determine the direction of Mecca from any point on the globe. By highlighting how the need for accurate prayer times and navigation sparked a mathematical revolution, Tyson underscored a central theme of the interview: that science is not merely a collection of facts, but a tool for survival and understanding that transcends cultural and temporal boundaries.

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